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Post by Pleonast on Jul 16, 2008 14:29:05 GMT -5
Have at it.
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Post by wolf2 on Jul 16, 2008 14:47:48 GMT -5
Man, we're getting reamed here. Cat's result on Diggit definitely makes me think he really is the Detective. Time to eat him!
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Post by wolf3 on Jul 16, 2008 16:07:05 GMT -5
Will we be able to? Could he be protected? A protective role would think the same thing we just did.
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Post by wolf5 on Jul 16, 2008 16:17:54 GMT -5
Therein lies the rub. He's likely going to be protected until there is no one left to protect him. It's getting to be critical that we hit upon a Witch...the whole "protect and investigate" deal is just too powerful. We've got to nail one of them to at least force them to chose one power or the other.
However, there might be another way -- I'd hoped this would last further into the game, but perhaps a good howling would cause enough confusion that the Witches might not protect CiaS tomorrow night?
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Post by wolf3 on Jul 16, 2008 16:21:41 GMT -5
Well, we know Nanook isn't really a Witch, right? So they aren't protecting him. They could be protecting anybody.
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Post by wolf2 on Jul 16, 2008 16:41:30 GMT -5
Well, we know Nanook isn't really a Witch, right? So they aren't protecting him. They could be protecting anybody. We do? He correctly labeled Diomedes/Boozahol a Wolf, right? I've been assuming that the Witches have been protecting Nanook. I bet they still are/will be for the foreseeable future. It's definitely possible that there's another protective role on Cat, but maybe not. The Magician's power has been used. So really only the Warlock or some secret power could save him, AIUI. It might be worth the risk, IMO, particularly since the Warlock's power wouldn't save him, it would just kill one of us as well. Given that it seems he is the Detective, our ranks are going to be pretty thin if this keeps up. We may want to consider the Howl or No Killing until we can get rid of him. Or we may just want to go for it.
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Post by wolf2 on Jul 16, 2008 16:42:48 GMT -5
It's getting to be critical that we hit upon a Witch...the whole "protect and investigate" deal is just too powerful. We've got to nail one of them to at least force them to chose one power or the other. I agree, but I have NO idea who else might be a Witch. Does anybody have a Witch read?
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Post by wolf3 on Jul 16, 2008 17:40:37 GMT -5
Wait... he was? He's not on the Wolf list in my PM. It says, "You are a Werewolf, Rank 3, a member of the Wolves. The other Wolves are fluiddruid, ShadowFacts, pedescribe, Hal Briston, DiggitCamara, Drain Bead." I've read it a zillion times because I thought he was a wolf too. Am I crazy? Is my PM wrong?
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Post by Pleonast on Jul 16, 2008 17:55:27 GMT -5
Are you guys in the wolfsbane already? The Wolves are: 23. fluiddruid - Alpha Wolf 01. ShadowFacts - Werewolf 2 09. Zsofia - Werewolf 3 03. pedescribe - Werewolf 4 06. Hal Briston - Werewolf 5 16. DiggitCamara - Werewolf 6 11. Drain Bead - Omega Wolf
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Post by wolf3 on Jul 16, 2008 18:03:05 GMT -5
But I was, like, SURE he was a wolf. I'm so glad it wasn't just me!
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Post by wolf3 on Jul 16, 2008 18:04:48 GMT -5
Well, that means the witches are NOT protecting him, and that the town will lynch Nanook when they find out. I'm thinking he must be Cabal to have gotten it right on the ones he read. So I'd expect the witches to maybe be protecting Cat.
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Post by wolf7 on Jul 16, 2008 18:36:02 GMT -5
Which sucks for us, bigtime. Our only hope is that we got a Witch in Roosh, but we won't know that for a while. I wonder what Diomedes actually was? Also, I am amazed, now that Nanook came forward with a scum result, that a real Witch has not come forward to dispute him. Hell, maybe the Witches were CoG, Roosh, and Redwing. Wouldn't that be funny?
I was going to suggest howling tonight, but I'm not sure what it would accomplish. Since Public Enemy #1 is Cat, and his actions are Day actions, it won't really cast any sort of confusion on him. And after Diggit is revealed, there's no way he gets lynched. We're in quite the pickle.
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Post by wolf2 on Jul 16, 2008 19:46:07 GMT -5
Wow, sorry everyone. I am a complete idiot!
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Post by wolf2 on Jul 16, 2008 21:01:44 GMT -5
OK, let's go Witch-hunting. Here's the list of players thanks to storyteller, color coded with what we know (I hope). Red is Wolf, Blue is Town, Green is other scum faction.
01. ShadowFacts 02. Koldanar 04. cckerberos 06. Hal Briston 07. MHaye 08. storyteller0910 - Claimed Magician 09. Zsofia 10. Oredigger77 11. Drain Bead 12. CatInASuit - Claimed Detective 14. peekercpa 16. DiggitCamara 17. Nanook of the North Shore - not a Witch 18. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 19. dotchan 20. Hockey Monkey 22. NAF1138 23. fluiddruid 27. One and Only Wanderers 28. Hawkeyeop 30. Pollux Oil 31. Omi no Kami
So, if all that it correct, and none are dead among the unknowns, then we have 3 Witches in the following group:
02. Koldanar 04. cckerberos 07. MHaye 10. Oredigger77 14. peekercpa 18. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 19. dotchan 20. Hockey Monkey 22. NAF1138 27. One and Only Wanderers 28. Hawkeyeop 30. Pollux Oil 31. Omi no Kami
Anyone got a read on anyone from that list?
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Post by wolf3 on Jul 16, 2008 21:09:22 GMT -5
Well, I'd think we'd hunt Witches the same way we'd hunt anybody who we think communicates at night - plus they'd have special knowledge. The knowledge wouldn't necessarily help us, though, because everybody jumped pedescribe and he's the only Wolf kill so far until now. I think the Witches will either be "scummy" or lurkers.
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Post by wolf7 on Jul 16, 2008 21:30:33 GMT -5
Okay. Let's do a little narrowing down of that list. We don't want to knock off Oredigger, Omi no Kami, or peekercpa, because they have unpopular opinions that we might be able to use to get them lynched, and I don't think any of them are Witches because of that as well. So, we're down to...
02. Koldanar 04. cckerberos 07. MHaye 18. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 19. dotchan 20. Hockey Monkey 22. NAF1138 27. One and Only Wanderers 28. Hawkeyeop 30. Pollux Oil
At this point, I think we have pretty good odds of picking one if we just guess. The problem is that we need to get TWO if we don't get one fast enough, because once the Witches realize that Cat is who he says he is, I doubt they'll be investigating at all, and will instead just be protecting Cat every night. Of course, a Witch or two may already be included in the list of the dead, but who knows? Not to mention that Cat could be easily brought back from the dead. Yuck.
If I have time, I'm going to do a colossal re-read of the whole thread. Pleonast, when do we have to have the kill in by again?
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Post by wolf6 on Jul 17, 2008 1:35:34 GMT -5
Okay. Let's do a little narrowing down of that list. We don't want to knock off Oredigger, Omi no Kami, or peekercpa, because they have unpopular opinions that we might be able to use to get them lynched, and I don't think any of them are Witches because of that as well. So, we're down to... 02. Koldanar 04. cckerberos 07. MHaye 18. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 19. dotchan 20. Hockey Monkey 22. NAF1138 27. One and Only Wanderers 28. Hawkeyeop 30. Pollux Oil At this point, I think we have pretty good odds of picking one if we just guess. The problem is that we need to get TWO if we don't get one fast enough, because once the Witches realize that Cat is who he says he is, I doubt they'll be investigating at all, and will instead just be protecting Cat every night. Of course, a Witch or two may already be included in the list of the dead, but who knows? Not to mention that Cat could be easily brought back from the dead. Yuck. If I have time, I'm going to do a colossal re-read of the whole thread. Pleonast, when do we have to have the kill in by again? Well, I know my goose is cooked... I'll try to wriggle out, and to do so I have two options: 1. Pose as a Scotsman and try to get into a major debate with the Cat. I'd tell them I'd already used my ability, of course (hence the Kill-less Night) 2. Pose as the Warlock. This would involve framing Roosh for the Death of... PygmyRugger? I think I'll be using option 2. I'm open to other ideas, though. I definitely think we can't kill Cat unless the Witchdoctor disappears. And l don't know who the Witches might be. Nonetheless, I vote kill the Cookie-monster (aka DarkSideCookie) And, until I'm lynched, I'll perma-vote for myself as Killer!
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Post by wolf7 on Jul 17, 2008 6:07:11 GMT -5
I can get behind that.
Diggit kills DarkCookies[/color]
Also, we should probably all come up with fake claims. I'm sort of in a quandary there, because I investigate as Town by one group, and Freemason by another role. I don't think I'll have to claim anytime soon, but I want to be prepared when I do. What should I claim as?
Sorry about the edit--I'm not quite awake and screwed up the coding for the color.
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Post by wolf7 on Jul 17, 2008 6:19:03 GMT -5
Oh, and Diggit...if it becomes obvious that your defense is going to fail, should you be completely honest? Say that you are a Wolf, and Diomedes wasn't one, and hope that people switch to Nanook? Or should we just wait that one out?
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Post by wolf6 on Jul 17, 2008 8:44:59 GMT -5
Oh, and Diggit...if it becomes obvious that your defense is going to fail, should you be completely honest? Say that you are a Wolf, and Diomedes wasn't one, and hope that people switch to Nanook? Or should we just wait that one out? That wouldn't work. Remember: 1. By toMorrow the town will know pede's allegiance 2. If I tell them I'm a wolf, that will pretty much even the count of deaths on all scum factions 3. The best course of action (for the town, of course) would be to wait out this Day to decide on Nanook's fate (when ex-Dio's status will be revealed)
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