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Post by Pleonast on Jul 23, 2008 14:46:10 GMT -5
Choose the attacker and their victim.
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Post by wolf7 on Jul 23, 2008 15:01:43 GMT -5
Okay. So this is tough, because there's going to be a dead Nanook tonight if we have a Vig and then whoever we kill and a vampire kill, if we're lucky. Meaning that CIAS can start picking off our choices one by one.
Should we howl tonight? If we do it tonight, it has the added bonus of stifling lynch discussion for yet another Day, while giving us more information about the dead and narrowing down who to kill next time. I'm hoping that at some point in the meantime we can get the good news that we've offed a Witch.
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Post by wolf3 on Jul 23, 2008 15:21:54 GMT -5
We need to stop the town's easy lynches, I think - I mean, sure it keeps them from talking and rooting us out, but on the other hand they've been, you know, lynching us. I'd be okay with howling tonight.
We have got to nail some witches and then find out that we did and that they can no longer protect, because we need to get rid of that Detective.
Also, he annoys me in a personal way.
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Post by wolf2 on Jul 23, 2008 15:30:21 GMT -5
Just as a reminder, here is the Howl power, since we're having a discussion about it:
Wolf Secret Power: One Night only, the Wolves may hold a Full Moon Party, smoking wolfsbane and howling at the moon. The noise and magic of the event will block all non-Secret powers that Night, except for curses already in effect. There must be at least two living Wolves to do this, and you forfeit your kill that Night.
I think it's a good idea to consider using the Howl, but I think we should also concurrently think of who to kill if we don't use it.
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Post by wolf3 on Jul 23, 2008 15:31:44 GMT -5
Also, if we Howl, we might be able to push to use the next lynch on Nanook since the Vig won't have done it.
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Post by wolf2 on Jul 23, 2008 15:32:44 GMT -5
Also, if we Howl, we might be able to push to use the next lynch on Nanook since the Vig won't have done it. I don't think we'll need to push that at all. It will be a fait accompli.
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Post by wolf3 on Jul 23, 2008 15:35:20 GMT -5
I was thinking we might have to work against whoever Cat finds out, but nobody should be killing anybody unless there's a secret power if we Howl.
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Post by wolf2 on Jul 23, 2008 15:47:43 GMT -5
Here's the list of live players:
01. ShadowFacts 02. Koldanar 04. cckerberos 06. Hal Briston 07. MHaye 08. storyteller0910 - Claimed Magician 09. Zsofia 10. Oredigger77 11. Drain Bead 12. CatInASuit - Claimed Detective 14. peekercpa - Claimed Vicar 17. Nanook of the North Shore - not a Witch 18. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 22. NAF1138 23. fluiddruid 27. One and Only Wanderers 28. Hawkeyeop 30. Pollux Oil 31. Omi no Kami
And here's the list of dead:
03. pedescribe - Wolf - Werewolf 16. DiggitCamara - Wolf - Werewolf 05. CoG888 - Suicided Day Two - Town - Freemason 13. RoOsh - Killed Night Two - Town 15. Boozahol Squid, P.I. (formerly Diomedes) - Lynched Day Three - Undead - Zombie 19. dotchan - Killed Night Three 20. Hockey Monkey - Killed Night Three 24. NaturalBlondChap - Killed Night One - Cabal - Cabalist 25. Darth Sensitive - Lynched Day One - Cabal - Cabalist 26. Redwing - Suicided Day Three - Town 21. brewha - Killed Night One - Town - Coroner - Zombie 29. Santo Rugger - Killed Night One - Town - Witchdoctor
Red = wolf Blue = town Purple = undead Orange = Cabal Black = unknown
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Post by wolf2 on Jul 23, 2008 15:53:42 GMT -5
I was thinking we might have to work against whoever Cat finds out, but nobody should be killing anybody unless there's a secret power if we Howl. Yes, good point. But I think we could accomplish the same result simply by not killing anyone, and retain the Howl to block if we need it. In fact, if we do that and a Vampire kills someone, then Cat will get another Vampire reading, which would be 3 out of 4 and a good basis for more suspicion of him.
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Post by wolf3 on Jul 23, 2008 16:20:14 GMT -5
Oh, good point. Very good point. I like that - no kill but no Howl and let Cat either find other prey (a Vig?) and everybody can chase everybody else's tails, or come up with another Vamp and be suspected, or there's no kill at all and everybody wonders why but we keep our secret power. Sweet!
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Post by wolf2 on Jul 23, 2008 16:25:36 GMT -5
Oh, good point. Very good point. I like that - no kill but no Howl and let Cat either find other prey (a Vig?) and everybody can chase everybody else's tails, or come up with another Vamp and be suspected, or there's no kill at all and everybody wonders why but we keep our secret power. Sweet! Muahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!
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Post by wolf2 on Jul 23, 2008 17:32:05 GMT -5
Actually, I have another thought:
If we're OK with No Killing tonight, why not take a stab (or fang) at CatInASuit? I think we're agreed that he is pretty likely to actually be the Detective at this point and not a vampire, right? If the Witches are protecting him, oh well, we get the same result mentioned above. And I don't think we'd get found out from a block. From the rules:
"You are a Witch, a member of the Town. The other Witches are (...). You may talk secretly among yourselves at Night, even when dead (see details below). As a group, each Night you may determine the side of another living player and/or protect a player from attack. A protected player will not know he was protected; attackers will only know their attack failed. The Witches may investigate and protect if all three are alive. If there are only two Witches alive, they may either investigate or protect. A single living Witch is powerless, except for talking with her dead comrades at Night. All decisions by the Witches must be without dissent among all three, living or dead, Witches. An Omega Wolf will appear to be on the Town side to the Witches."
As far as I can tell, the Witches wouldn't know who attacked. I'd want to confirm that with Pleonast, but can anyone see a major downside to this plan?
ETA: One downside is the Warlock, who may be protecting Cat. But even if that happens, Cat would still be dead, and the killer would have one more night before the curse took him, allowing (I think) one more kill before dying.
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Post by Pleonast on Jul 23, 2008 17:37:58 GMT -5
As far as I can tell, the Witches wouldn't know who attacked. I'd want to confirm that with Pleonast, but can anyone see a major downside to this plan? An attack that fails (for whatever reason) is not detectable or investigatable.
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Post by wolf2 on Jul 23, 2008 17:56:26 GMT -5
As far as I can tell, the Witches wouldn't know who attacked. I'd want to confirm that with Pleonast, but can anyone see a major downside to this plan? An attack that fails (for whatever reason) is not detectable or investigatable. Sweet, thanks!
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Post by wolf3 on Jul 23, 2008 18:19:46 GMT -5
Christ, Nanook. Well, that's one lynch that isn't taken up with somebody else.
Who kills? I'm all for trying on Cat, with the understanding that if it fails, that's to our advantage also.
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Post by wolf7 on Jul 23, 2008 19:36:41 GMT -5
Sounds like a great idea to me. Who attempts the kill?
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Post by wolf3 on Jul 24, 2008 8:57:09 GMT -5
Who is under the most suspicion? No sense in giving up somebody who's really under the radar. I think I've seen everybody mentioned with a raised eyebrow except fluiddruid.
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Post by wolf2 on Jul 24, 2008 9:31:30 GMT -5
It seems to me that we've all been doing a fairly decent job of staying under the radar. Given that Drain Bead is the Omega Wolf and investigates as Town, we probably ought to avoid her until necessary. fluiddruid is the Alpha and is totally under the radar due to her infrequent posting (way to lurk!) ;D
So that leaves me, Hal and Zsofia. I think it should be one of those 3.
While I am not in a hurry to risk myself, it was my idea to take a shot at Cat, so I won't argue if you all think I'm the best choice.
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Post by wolf5 on Jul 24, 2008 10:11:52 GMT -5
Ok, I'm back online, new laptop up and running. Now then... Good news: I woke up in the middle of the night last night with a terrific plan in mind. Bad news: The idea has already been proposed. Going with the no-kill will allow someone else to bear the brunt of CatInASuit investigations (assuming someone else gets in a kill). However, since we now know that a failed attack on CIAS wouldn't necessarily be exposed, he's gotta be our target. The beauty of it is that if the attack does fail, and someone else offs Nanook, then there will be no obvious course for the town to take today -- that'll leave the door wide open for a revisiting of my Day 2 "there must be scum here" list. In fact, hmmm...let's take a look at that list: Diomedes/Boozahol, cckerberos, Omi, OAOW and RoOsh. Diomedes/Boozahol and RoOsh are both already dead, meaning we should probably pick a target from the remaining three to potentially pile onto, if all comes together correctly. Omi drew heat early on, so she might be a good target...any other nominations?
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Post by wolf7 on Jul 24, 2008 10:21:49 GMT -5
I think that ShadowFacts has probably been drawing the most suspicion.
Shadowfacts kills CatInASuit
I was going to look back at my case against Omi no Kami tomorrow, since I've completely forgotten why I once voted for him so long ago.
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