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Post by Pleonast on Jun 25, 2008 14:28:07 GMT -5
You need to choose a victim and the killer.
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Post by wolf4 on Jun 25, 2008 14:38:17 GMT -5
So how'd I do? I got some suspicion, but I think I dodged it well enough, and I did mastermind the darth lynch.
Also, who should we try to kill? NAF? Cat? Honestly, I'm a bit afraid Cat's a vampire. Brewha? Nanook? If nanook is a witch, that means the witch protection will be tied up defending him, and we'll be less likely to miss with other targets.
Also, should I be the one to attack? If Cat investigates me as a wolf, would it undermine or bolster his credibility?
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Post by wolf3 on Jun 25, 2008 14:40:25 GMT -5
Well, I don't think we should go after brewha because if he IS the coroner, we need that information too! There's no point in us going after somebody who's going to be protected, but then we get WIFOM - if we don't go after him, we don't know who he is and everybody will know that either he's protected or we didn't go after him because we thought he'd be protected and etc., etc., etc,.
I think Cat and others may go after you a lot more toMorrow.
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Post by wolf2 on Jun 25, 2008 14:40:26 GMT -5
Hey everyone -
I think it is decidedly in our best interests to get a target in as soon as we can, as it gives us a better chance to avoid an investigation. I think this is doubly true toNight given the high-profile targets that claimed toDay.
We had previously discussed storyteller, who I think is still a definite option, despite his lack of participation and frustration from the other game. (Anyone know what's going on over there?)
I think we should also consider Nanook and CatInASuit. I personally think the odds of Nanook telling the truth are fairly high, and that he will be protected toNight. I'm less certain about Cat's claim, and I think it's possible he's a Vampire again and claimed Detective so we'd try to kill him at night.
Any other ideas?
I also think we should discuss other thoughts on what happened during the Day, but only after we've got a target.
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Post by wolf3 on Jun 25, 2008 14:41:26 GMT -5
I'm reluctant to go after storyteller when he hasn't been participating. Perhaps NAF?
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Post by wolf2 on Jun 25, 2008 14:44:08 GMT -5
So how'd I do? I got some suspicion, but I think I dodged it well enough, and I did mastermind the darth lynch. Nice job on Darth - I doubt there will be a huge ton of flack from that, even if he turns up Town. I tried to subtly help that along with my "focus" post. I do think you garnered too much suspicion, though. You have a way of posting that I feel is easily misunderstood. You might want to be a little more careful.
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Post by wolf4 on Jun 25, 2008 14:53:11 GMT -5
I'm not sure we should kill NAF. All he did was rag on me, and if he dies, the town might get suspicious. OTOH, I could be disposable. I'm leaning toward Cat, but I still think he might be a vampire--that "to the wolves' delight" just seemed a little too inviting.
Or, since he was the second-highest vote getter, we could kill OreDigger, and leave the town without openings.
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Post by wolf2 on Jun 25, 2008 14:58:24 GMT -5
Or, since he was the second-highest vote getter, we could kill OreDigger, and leave the town without openings. I think we should leave Oredigger alive. We know he's not one of us, so let him sweat and garner votes. If he gets lynched tomorrow based on what I started toDay, that would be swell. Zsofia, I don't understand your objection to storyteller. Do you mean you'd just feel bad about it because he hasn't had a chance to play much or is it something else? I think I'd have to go take a re-look at NAF before deciding on him. He doesn't seem to have been particularly active (which might mean a powerful role).
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Post by wolf3 on Jun 25, 2008 15:00:56 GMT -5
Well, I mean, storyteller hardly seems a threat today - he almost seemed like he was going to withdraw. Of course, if toMorrow he DOES become a threat we won't be able to remove him until the next Night, by which time the damage may be done. As opposed to NAF, who has already had a chance to point at pedescribe, whigh might bring attention if we night-kill him.
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Post by wolf3 on Jun 25, 2008 15:01:51 GMT -5
Also, it hardly seems wise to nightkill people who are already engendering suspicion, like Oredigger, since he might get offed by the town anyway.
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Post by wolf2 on Jun 25, 2008 15:38:18 GMT -5
Well, I mean, storyteller hardly seems a threat today - he almost seemed like he was going to withdraw. Of course, if toMorrow he DOES become a threat we won't be able to remove him until the next Night, by which time the damage may be done. As opposed to NAF, who has already had a chance to point at pedescribe, whigh might bring attention if we night-kill him. Well, I think he will be back to his old self soon enough, and that will be trouble for us. I'd still put him as my #1 candidate.
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Post by wolf3 on Jun 25, 2008 15:50:37 GMT -5
I'd be happy with that. I very much agree with you that we should get a target in ASAP - come on, everybody, weigh in!
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 25, 2008 16:08:09 GMT -5
If you like, put your votes something like this: Pleonast kills Blaster Master
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Post by wolf3 on Jun 25, 2008 16:20:54 GMT -5
How should we decide who carries out the kill? Should it be somebody already under suspicion so that if they're found out it doesn't reveal anybody else, or are they more likely to be targeted?
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Post by wolf1 on Jun 25, 2008 16:21:14 GMT -5
Here are my thoughts on the candidates:
Nanook/Witch. I buy the claim and knocking the witches down to two would severely limit them. A good overall choice but likely to be protected so I would say let's get him but not tonight.
CIAS/Detective. I agree that he seems a little too delicious. At the risk of leaving a Detective in play I think it's best to wait him out. He seems to be gunning for a night kill by being really loud and bossy and picking a really tasty role to claim.
brewha/Coroner, no thanks, I'd rather leave the coroner in play at least for now
Storyteller was a leader yesterday. Personally I think he is still a very strong choice - the Town is very likely to go after the role claimers anyway and he's garnered no real votes. He's also been relatively quiet. Unlikely to be a Vampire, unlikely to be protected.
As for who kills: I'd have to say you, Pedescribe, if you're still willing.
vote Pedescribe kills Storyteller
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Post by wolf1 on Jun 25, 2008 16:22:17 GMT -5
Meant to say, Storyteller was a leader *last night*. As in, one that we seem to agree would be a good target.
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Post by wolf2 on Jun 25, 2008 16:33:21 GMT -5
Here are my thoughts on the candidates: Nanook/Witch. I buy the claim and knocking the witches down to two would severely limit them. A good overall choice but likely to be protected so I would say let's get him but not tonight. CIAS/Detective. I agree that he seems a little too delicious. At the risk of leaving a Detective in play I think it's best to wait him out. He seems to be gunning for a night kill by being really loud and bossy and picking a really tasty role to claim. brewha/Coroner, no thanks, I'd rather leave the coroner in play at least for now Storyteller was a leader yesterday. Personally I think he is still a very strong choice - the Town is very likely to go after the role claimers anyway and he's garnered no real votes. He's also been relatively quiet. Unlikely to be a Vampire, unlikely to be protected. As for who kills: I'd have to say you, Pedescribe, if you're still willing. I concur completely, assuming pedescribe is still willing. vote pedescribe kills Storyteller
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Post by wolf5 on Jun 25, 2008 16:41:54 GMT -5
We had previously discussed storyteller, who I think is still a definite option, despite his lack of participation and frustration from the other game. (Anyone know what's going on over there?) He had a extraordinarily powerful pro-town role...trouble was, it read very much like a PFK-type role. He had revealed all, and was putting thing in motion to resurrect the recently-nightkilled cop (see...powerful role) when scum hockey monkey used her ultra-powerful scum power -- she sacrificed herself to mid-day-kill storyteller. Anyway, to business. Yes pedescribe, excellent job leading the way on Darth. And good job ending up off radar, everyone... pedescribe was the only one of us to end the day with a vote on them (by NAF). I know I said yesterday that storyteller was to be target #1, but if he's going to remove himself from heavy rotation for a bit, I'm willing to shift elsewhere. My preferred target for today: Redwing. Now, he's new, so most people don't know much about his play style...and that works out good for us. I was a little surprised to see someone jump out of the gate and lay out a vote on storyteller. Unfortunately for him, a ballsy move like that put him on the radar. There are a couple of big advantages to going after him. One, his voting record...once he's nightkilled, the speculation will be that he had been sniffing around a wolf. He laid down votes for story, Nanook, brewha and Darth, which will lead to suspicion against each of them (well, except for Darth, obviously). Two, he hasn't really called enough attention to himself to warrant protection. There were plenty of claimants who will get the attention of the Warlock, Witchdoctor, etc. And three, he's one of the more powerful pro-town roles. I can only call it a gut feeling, but his posting style reminds me very much of someone with a "new toy" kind of role. And on preview, I caution everyone to keep in mind that the protective elements out there are just as aware of how good a player storyteller is as we are.
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Post by wolf7 on Jun 25, 2008 17:13:25 GMT -5
I do think that storyteller is unlikely to be protected, what with all the exposed roles out there. I also think the storyteller kill will give the town the least amount of information to work with, because they'll all know he was only killed because he's a good player. Plus, his votes were all for non-wolves, so that's pretty helpful.
pedescribe kills Storyteller[/color]
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Post by wolf1 on Jun 25, 2008 17:16:42 GMT -5
Hal, don't you think it's pretty likely that defender types will be focused on claimants? The three roles claimed are all very significant for Town - the loss of any of them is a significant blow.
Also, I'll note that my experience with night kills is that the voting history of the dead is not considered all that seriously. Everyone knows not to kill their biggest critic, so I doubt anyone would be lynched on this alone. Though, granted, I'm sure Town would be very surprised by a Redwing kill... I just don't see how it benefits us terribly. Every night kill is a risk for us so I'd like to see a significant gain.
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